This week, Aoife interviews zack.ry about “(don't) stay null” from caught in the reverb. "it’s been sort of freeing to enter into this space where you have people you can bounce things off of and you can try things that you’re not used to," says zack.ry, about their experiences playing with the garages. "I just wanna make music that is fun and pushes me and ultimately says something deeper about humans or about experiences from this community."

As of the time of this upload, zack.ry now uses he/they pronouns.

Listen to “(don't) stay null” by the garages at blandcamp.com.

zack.ry is an occasional musician, frequent theologian, and perpetual overthinker living in washington, d.c. they’ll make you a bangin pour over and either spend the next few hours in deep existential conversation or neck deep in their tiktok for you page. you can find their music at zackry.bandcamp.com

This episode of idol board was edited by Ada Quinn, hosted by Aoife, produced by Tangereen Velveteen, transcribed by Merry, and written by Aoife and Tangereen Velveteen. Find all episodes and transcripts of idol board at fourth-strike.com/podcast and follow @idolboard on twitter for updates. Get all episodes plus bonuses by supporting Fourth Strike’s patreon at blandcamp.com/patreon.